Two Keys and Two Titles
When played in A dorian, this tune is called "I Shall Ne’er Wean Her," and in B minor its title becomes "Mrs. O’Sullivan’s."
Jig and Reel
Reminds me of a tune the great Ulster singers Len Graham and the late Joe Holmes used to lilt in jig and reel versions. I think they called it "Wellington’s Medal".
I’m a bit confused about the key here - it seems to me that If I accompany this tune I play the chords for C major.
“I Ne’er Shall Wean Her” ~ K: A minor
~ and just a minor variant:
|: G |
EGG GED | EGG c2 B | AcA AGA | cde e2 d |
cde g2 a | ged c2 d | e2 a edB | cAG A2 :|
|: d |
e2 g ged | egg g2 d | e2 a aga | bag a2 g |
cc/d/e g2 a | ged c2 B | Aaa e2 d | cAG A2 :|
& a version in F minor:
I’d call it C rather than A dorian
Stoneboy wrote, "I’m a bit confused about the key here - it seems to me that If I accompany this tune I play the chords for C major." I agree. A dorian has an F sharp in it; C major, of course, has F natural. There are several places in this tune where you could drop an F natural in and it would sound fine, e.g., in measure 5 in the run up to G. I don’t think there’s any place an F# would fit.
Yeah, it ends on an A, but so what? It just begs to resolve to a C chord.
I Ne’er Shall Wean Her
Great tune this! Here it is played by the group Sproai http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpR2jGWEVuU&feature=grec_browse
The second tune of course.
It reminds me of a few vague tunes and, less vaguely, of an early Pogues song, which name I’ve forgotten.
The first part proceeds by steps, it creates an anxious suspense; is this imperious rise gointa stop?
I posted a setting which is very close to the Lúnasa version in their Maids In The Kitchen track. Of course they played it in Gm to be more cool 🙂, but Am is easier, at least on my banjo, or C whistle - lost my Bb whistle somewhere - should get another.
Maids In The Kitchen
Re: I Ne’er Shall Wean Her
Found in several old Scottish collections as The Irish Girl… https://thesession.org/tunes/13224
I Ne’er Shall Wean Her, X:8
Some variations from Patrick Street.
I Ne’er Shall Wean Her, X:9
A few small variations from the previous setting posted, transposed up to Bmin, and a variant ending from the Ross Ainslie & Jarlath Henderson album Air-Fix (track "Gordon"). Wouldn’t use that ending every time playing through the tune of course!
I Ne’er Shall Wean Her, X:11
Taken from ‘A Fine Selection of Over 200 Irish Traditional Tunes for Sessions’, compiled by David Speers with a Forward by Matt Cranitch. I’ve added this setting as it appears in the book with the B part an octave below what’s usually played. Anybody come across this before?
Re: I Ne’er Shall Wean Her
@Eubonian, Have come across something similar to this. A similar jig of a different name, "Jig for Jules". See: https://thesession.org/tunes/16022
Harmony Glen play it on their album "Streaming Tunes" (https://thesession.org/recordings/2722), could have sworn I was listening to a variant of Mrs. O’Sullivan’s that goes lower than normal.
I Ne’er Shall Wean Her, X:12
Heard this variant live on the whistle recently, 2nd or 3rd pass through the tune. The first two bars of the B Part, |dg2 g2e|dg2 g2e|, those repeated g’s were slid onto, air cut-off between each of them. Sounded great!