Valse Eccossaise waltz

Also known as La Valse Eccossaise, La Valse Ecossaise, Le Valse Ecossaise, Leaving Lismore, Leaving Lismore March, Scottish, The Scottish.

There is 1 recording of this tune.

Valse Eccossaise has been added to 23 tunebooks.

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One setting

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X: 1
T: Valse Eccossaise
R: waltz
M: 3/4
L: 1/8
K: Dmaj
D3/2E/F A2d|BAF AFE|D3/2E/F A2A|BAF E2A,|
D3/2E/F A2d|BAF A3|ABd F2E|F/E/D2 D3:|
d3/2c/d B2A|BAF A3|d3/2c/d B2A|BAF E3|
d3/2c/d B2A|BAF A3|ABd F2E|F/E/D2 D3|
d3/2c/d B2A|BAF A3|d3/2c/d B2A|BAF E3|
D3/2E/F A2d|BAF A3|ABd F2E|F/E/D2 D3||

Eight comments

It’s a setting of a tune otherwise called Leaving Lismore, which is already in the Tunes database. I know, because I put it there!

Jig?????

nicholas! did you intend it looking like a jig? It plays quite well as a slow Scottish type jig/march but in my old age I do get a bit confused with musical contradictions.
L: 1/8 ???? a mistake??? maybe???

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Valse Eccossaise

This tune is indeed called "Leaving Lismore" - Lismore (Lios Mòr in Gaelic) being an island of the Inner Hebrides in Loch Linnhe, in Argyll, on the west coast of Scotland.

It is what is known by pipers as a "retreat march" - that is, a march in 3/4 time. So it’s not a waltz, even though it’s in 3/4 time ( a bit of a difficult concept to grasp!). Perhaps "retreat march" is a free translation from the German: "Valse Eccossaise"

Other examples of retreat marches include "Green Hills of Tyrol" and "When the Battle is Over".

I agree that it is a retreat march but cannot see the logic behind 3/4. To me 6/8 would be correct and the dotted quaver in the triplets gives me the tempo and the feel of the tune. I would also be tempted to play all the other triplets with dotted first quavers, or at least most of them.
Valse = waltz????

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Valse Eccossaise

Ooops! To correct what I said in my last post. When I said "German", I meant "French".

So "Valse Eccossaise" would translate as "Scottish Waltz".

Breton bagpipes are very similar to Scottish highland pipes, and Breton pipe bands often play Scottish pipe tunes. So perhaps "Valse Eccossaise" is just the generic French name for this type of Scottish pipe tune. That’s my theory, anyway!

You have it hetty!

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Hey, it happens. I wouldn’t blame the Bretons for it necessarily, things sometimes go well more than one way… Polkas become slides, slides become polkas, jigs become waltzes, waltzes become jigs… 😏

3/2 becomes 9/8 ~ and the beat goes on…