Thadelo’s barndance

Also known as Thadelo’s Barndances #1.

There are 3 recordings of a tune by this name.

Thadelo’s has been added to 3 tune sets.

Thadelo's has been added to 23 tunebooks.

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Seven settings

X: 1
T: Thadelo's
R: barndance
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: Dmaj
A2 AB AFDE | F2 FE F3G | A2 AB AFDF | GEED E3F |
G2 GG GFEF | G2 GF G2 B2 | ABAG FGFE |1 D2 DE DEFG :|2 D2 DE D4 ||
f2 df e2 ce | d2 A2 A3A | B2 BB B2 ed | c2 Bc ABde |
f2 df e2 ce | d2 A2 A3A | B2 BB c2 Bc |1 e2 d2 d3e :|2 e2 d2 d4 ||
# Added by Kenny .
X: 2
T: Thadelo's
R: barndance
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: Dmaj
A A/B/ A/F/D/E/ | F F/E/ F>G | A A/B/ A/F/D/F/ | G/E/E/D/ E>F |
G G/G/ G/F/E/F/ | G G/F/ G B | A/B/A/G/ F/G/F/E/ |1 D D/E/ D/E/F/G/ :|2
f d/f/ e c/e/ | d A A>A | B B/B/ B e/d/ | c B/c/ A/B/d/e/ |
f d/f/ e c/e/ | d A A>A | B B/B/ c B/c/ |1 e d d>e :|2 e d d2 |
X: 3
T: Thadelo's
R: barndance
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: Dmaj
|: D (3EFG |A2 A2 A>FD>E | F2 F2 F3 G | A2 A>B A>FD>F | E2 E>^D E2 (3DEF |
G2 G2 G>FE>F | G2 G2 G3 B | A2 A>G F2 (3GFE | D2 d2 D- :|
|: A d>e |f2 d>f e2 c>e | d2 A2 A3 d | B2 ^A>B =A>Fd>e | f2 d>f e>A (3cde |
f2 (3def (3efe (3cde | d2 A2 d3 A | B2 ^A>B =A>F (3Bcd | (3efe d2 d :|
X: 4
T: Thadelo's
R: barndance
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: Dmaj
|: DF |A2 A2 AFDE | F2 F2 F3 G | A2 AB AFDF | E2 E^D E2 EF |
G2 G2 GFEF | G2 G2 G3 B | A2 AG F2 GE | D2 d2 D2 :|
|: Ad |f2 df e2 ce | d2 A2 A3 d | B2 B2 A2 de | f2 df eAce |
f2 df e2 ce | d2 A2 d3 A | B2 B2 AFcd | e2 A2 d2 :|
X: 5
T: Thadelo's
R: barndance
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: Dmaj
A3B AFDE | F2FE F2FG | A2AB AFDF | (3GAG Ez E3F |
GzGF GFEF | GAGF G2B2 | A2AB AGFE | D8 :|
f4 e2de | d2A2 A2dA | (3B^B^c BA (3B^B^c dB | c2 A2 A4 |
f2gf e2fe | d2 A2 A2dA | (3B^B^c BA (3B^B^c dA | e2d2 d4 :|
X: 6
T: Thadelo's
R: barndance
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: Dmaj
|: D>F |A2 A2 A2 D>E | F2 F2 F2 G2 | A2 A2 A2 D>F | E2 E2 E2 E>F |
G2 G2 G2 E>F | G2 G2 G2 B2 | A2 A2 F2 G>E | D2 D2 D2 :|
|: A>d |f2 f2 e2 c>e | d2 A2 A2 d2 | B2 B2 A2 d>e | f2 f2 e2 c>e |
f2 f2 e2 c>e | d2 A2 d2 A2 | B2 B2 A2 c>d | e2 e2 d2 :|
X: 7
T: Thadelo's
R: barndance
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: Dmaj
B2|A2 AB AFDE | F2 FE F3G | A2 AB AFDF | G2 E2 E3 F|
G2 GF GFEF | G2 GF G3 B|A2 AB AGFE | F2 D2 D2 :||
de|f2 f2 e2 fe | d2 A2 A3A | (3Bcd BA BcdB|c2 A2 A2 de |
f2 f2 e2 fe|d2 A2 A3A |(3Bcd BA Bcdc|e2 d2 d2 :||

Twelve comments

Thadelo…

Details tomorrow.

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Thadelo’s…

The first of 2 barndances I’ll post, from the playing of “Any Old Time”. Also recorded by Paudie O’Connor, Johnny Leary and Jimmy Noonan and Chris McGrath on their fine recording “The Maple Leaf”.

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L: 1/4

perhaps?

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2?

Missed a 2 out?;

X: 1
T: Thadelo’s
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
R: barndance
K: Dmaj
A A/B/ A/F/D/E/ | F F/E/ F>G | A A/B/ A/F/D/F/ | G/E/E/D/ E>F |
G G/G/ G/F/E/F/ | G G/F/ G B | A/B/A/G/ F/G/F/E/ |1 D D/E/ D/E/F/G/ :|2
D D/E/ D2 |
f d/f/ e c/e/ | d A A>A | B B/B/ B e/d/ | c B/c/ A/B/d/e/ |
f d/f/ e c/e/ | d A A>A | B B/B/ c B/c/ |1 e d d>e :|2 e d d2 |

we play it for hornpipe figures in set dancing.

Thadelo…

Several recordings, especially those made by musicians from the “Sliabh Luachra” area, include slides, polkas, or barndances named “Thadelo’s”. eg – “Beginish”, “The Monks Of The Screw”, and the others mentioned below.
Thadelo O’Sullivan came from Annaghbeg, Gneeveguilla, and was a great source of tunes for the late Johnny O’Leary. According to various sources on the internet, and mentions on recording sleeve-notes, he played accordion, melodeon, concertina, whistle and fife.
This tune is quite often paired with an “Irish-ified” version of the American dance tune “Turkey In The Straw”. Johnny O’Leary used to play the 2 together as barndances for the hornpipe figure of a set. As well as having been recorded by Johnny O’Leary, the 2 tunes together can be found on CDs by “Any Old Time” from Cork, and also on “The Maple Leaf” by Jimmy Noonan and Chris McGrath. The American duo’s version is noticeably different, being played more like reels, and without the “bounce” or “skip” of the Irish players. I like both versions.
I’ve inserted the missing "2" - thanks for pointing that out.
The "default" note length for barndances appears to be 1/8.

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“Thadelo’s Barndance” ~ another couple of takes

X: 3
T: Thadelo’s Barndance
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
R: barndance
K: Dmaj
|: D (3EFG |\
A2 A2 A>FD>E | F2 F2 F3 G | A2 A>B A>FD>F | E2 E>^D E2 (3DEF |
G2 G2 G>FE>F | G2 G2 G3 B | A2 A>G F2 (3GFE | D2 d2 D- :|
|: A d>e |\
f2 d>f e2 c>e | d2 A2 A3 d | B2 ^A>B =A>Fd>e | f2 d>f e>A (3cde |
f2 (3def (3efe (3cde | d2 A2 d3 A | B2 ^A>B =A>F (3Bcd | (3efe d2 d :|

& straight ~ minus > & (3

X: 4
T: Thadelo’s Barndance
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
R: barndance
K: Dmaj
|: DF |\
A2 A2 AFDE | F2 F2 F3 G | A2 AB AFDF | E2 E^D E2 EF |
G2 G2 GFEF | G2 G2 G3 B | A2 AG F2 GE | D2 d2 D2 :|
|: Ad |\
f2 df e2 ce | d2 A2 A3 d | B2 B2 A2 de | f2 df eAce |
f2 df e2 ce | d2 A2 d3 A | B2 B2 AFcd | e2 A2 d2 :|

Another transcript ~ “Johnny O’Leary of Sliabh Luachra:

Dance Music from the Cork-Kerry Border"
edited by Terry Moylan
Lilliput Press, Dublin, 1994

page 142, tune #246: "Thadelo’s (3)"
~ filed under ‘hornpipes’ in the index…

N: "I call it Thadelo’s. He was Thade Sullivan, a native of Annaghbeg, Kilcummin… I suppose all Sliabh Luachra nearly." ~ Johnny O’Leary

M: 4/4 & L: 1/8 makes sense, as does Terry filing these under ‘hornpipes’ in this book. ‘Barndances’ often end up associated with hornpipes because they belong to that family of swing… There is also a strong four counts per measure with such tunes, more so than reels, so ~ M: 4/4 and L: 1/8…

M: 4/4 & L: 1/8 ~ ‘strong four counts’ ~ another way to see this tune…

X: 5
T: Thadelo’s Barndance
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
R: barndance
K: Dmaj
|: D>F |\
A2 A2 A2 D>E | F2 F2 F2 G2 | A2 A2 A2 D>F | E2 E2 E2 E>F |
G2 G2 G2 E>F | G2 G2 G2 B2 | A2 A2 F2 G>E | D2 D2 D2 :|
|: A>d |\
f2 f2 e2 c>e | d2 A2 A2 d2 | B2 B2 A2 d>e | f2 f2 e2 c>e |
f2 f2 e2 c>e | d2 A2 d2 A2 | B2 B2 A2 c>d | e2 e2 d2 :|

If it’s 1/8…

then you need to write the note lengths as ceolachan does. Paste in your original ABCs into a converter and you’ll see why: you have eighths (quavers) and sixteenths (semiquavers) instead of quarters (crotchets) and eighths (quavers), and the sum of the notes in each measure is only half what the time signature calls for.

It’s good tune. Thanks for posting it!

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From Johnny O’Leary’s repertoire

Fiddler’s Companion has this to say about it:
"Irish, Hornpipe. Ireland, Sliabh Luachra region of the Cork-Kerry border. D Major. Standard. AABB. See also a related polka called “The Lackagh Cross [3]” in Breathnach’s CRÉ V (1999, No. 103). Source for notated version: accordion player Johnny O’Leary (Sliabh Luachra region) [Moylan]. Moylan (Johnny O’Leary), 1994; No. 246, pg. 142."
http://www.ibiblio.org/fiddlers/THA_THE.htm

From the 1994 "Johnny O’Leary of Sliabh Luachra" book, replicated here:http://www.capeirish.com/webabc/collections/jol/jol-tunes.html


X: 1
T: Thadelo’s Hornpipe (3)
L: 1/8
M: 4/4
R: hornpipe
K: D
A3B AFDE | F2FE F2FG | A2AB AFDF | (3GAG Ez E3F |
GzGF GFEF | GAGF G2B2 | A2AB AGFE | D8 :|
f4 e2de | d2A2 A2dA | (3B^B^c BA (3B^B^c dB | c2 A2 A4 |
f2gf e2fe | d2 A2 A2dA | (3B^B^c BA (3B^B^c dA | e2d2 d4 :|

Thadelo’s, X:7

Based on Rose Flanagan’s and Laura Byrne’s version on Forget Me Not.