A gorgeous tune from Diarmuid Moynihan from Calico. Cranks every time, it’s lovely to play.
Sorry to disagree, but this tune has everything I hate about some new compositions — rambling, contrived and with two parts that seem to owe nothing to the other!! The better 2nd part sounds too much like it’s made up of bits of better tunes. That’s not too say it is doing it little justice to judge it from the Midi. Still, I remain dubious …
What he said.
The A part of this tune owes much to the Scottish tune "Charlie is my Darling". I like the syncopation of the B part. Overall, a worthy addition to the repertoire.
Sorry, my earlier comments on the A and B parts need to be reversed. I learned the tune the other way round from how it is printed here!
I think it’s a grand wee tune, but i always thought it was written by Tola Custy???
This is SirNose and bb’s version:
B|EFGA B2dB|BAGB AGFB|EFGA Bdef|gfed eaz2|
EFGA ~B3d|BAGB AGFB|EFGA Bded|BAGB E3:|
|:e|gfeg fegf|egfe a3b|gfeg fegf|egfe B3e|
gfeg fegf|egfe a3g|ba (3gab agfB|egfd e3:|
Thanks Dow - I really like this tune as you all know. But I must clarify - It is heaps more fun to play than to actually listen to. Does that make sense? its soo much fun - except when you have Dow purposely playing wrong chords!! No seriously Dow - good on you:)
It’s the car horn effect that he plays on the concertina on the a3 and B3 that I think *really* makes the tune.
Tabache - Waves of Rush
This tune’s also on the Tabache album Waves of Rush.
NongLote & Bad Maloney
I can’t believe I’m disagreeing with you two, as normally I would be like minded, not very fond of contrivance and the ‘see-what-I-can-do’ tendency of a lot of ‘new’ composition. As Nong put it, "rambling and contrived", etc… While I don’t like the tune particularly, finding the A-part (‘B’ in the comments) a bit "na-na-na-na~", or mostly stuck noodling between a third, it has ‘agreement’, though as Nong says, not much between the A & B. But even there, though not a direct tie, there is a ‘noodle’ here and there between the same third in the lower octave of the B-part (‘A’ in the comments). All that said, it ain’t a half bad try and I can see where the fun is, but I’ll bet you Dow/Mark ain’t playing it anymore. It is one of those that I think would eventually grate on you like some commercial dittys. I still don’t think it’s a ‘bad’ tune in structure and with some fun changing the emphasis bow wise, syncopation other than intended, it has some laugh factor in it, especially if you’ve someone like Dow playing the wrong chords in the wrong places and maybe a 6/8 or 9/8 bodhran rhythm bubbling underneath it ~ just so long as no one takes it seriously…
A few points of ‘agreement’:
A (B comments) ~ measures 1 / 3 / 5, with a classic change for 7, and similar for 2, 4, 6 & same note for 8.
B (A comments) ~ same as previous.
Between the two ~
already mentioned, the noodling between gfe & EFG/GFE, and not forgetting agf & FGA. It is like poetry, the rhyme doesn’t have to be strictly iambic pentameter rhyming couplets, always at the end of the phrase…
I brought this setting home from a contradance players workshop run by Jeremiah McLane:
T: Up Downey
| EFGA B2eB | BAGB AGFD | EFGA B2ef | gfed fa (3aaa |
EFGA B2eB | BAGB AGFD | EFGA B2ef |1 gfed e4 :|2 gfed e3f ||
| gfeg fegf | egfe a2 (3aaa | gfeg fegf | egfd B2 (3BBB |
gfeg fegf | egfe a2 (3aaa | bagb agfd |1 (3efg fd e3f :|2 (3efg fd e4 ||
Here’s the original version:
T: Up Downey
C: Tola Custy
D: Calico - Songdogs
EFGA ~B2ed|ABGB AGFG|DEGA ~B2ef|gfeg fazD|
EFGA ~B2ed|ABGB AGFG|DEGA ~B2ed|1 BAGF EB,~B,2:|2 BAGF EB~B2||
|:gfeg fegf|egfe a2~a2|gfeg fegf|egfe B2~B2|
gfeg fegf|egfe a2~a2|bagf agfg|e3e e2ee:|
1st time thru the fiddle plays the following variation on bars 7 and 8 of the A-part:
|E^DEG GFGA|BA (3Bcd edBG|
It is also on the album… Christy O’Leary & Bert Deivert: song’s sweet caress. Track 2. second tune.
Up Downey is actually The Mad Skeletons of St Pancras
This tune, as it appears on Songdogs, is actually written by Alan Burton of Fianna fame, though he did say "I’m honoured that someone would think Tola wrote it!"
He provides this (edited) version of the tunes history -
"For background it was written in London in 1998, and was named after ruminating exactly what went on in the upper rooms of St Pancras’ Station when passing late one night. It went sort of ‘I wonder what goes on up there’"
“The Mad Skeletons Of St. Pancras” ~ C: Alan Burton ~ duplication
Submitted on February 25th 2003 by matti.
Ok, just to be clear here - Up Downey and The Mad Skeletons of St. Pancras Station are NOT the same tune. They don’t even sound alike! In the liner notes for the Calico album "Songdogs", Tola is clearly credited as the composer for Up Downey. Both great tunes, both great composers, different reels.
AS you said under the other listing of this tune - "Not one of my favourite tunes to put it mildly."
And yet you post several versions of it here. Very stoic Mark. I wish Tola Custy had never written it - annoying thing. ( sorry Tola ).
"Declan Corey the mandolinist wrote The Up Downey at The Lorient Interceltique Festival 1999 or 2000." — from someone who was there in the field with Declan when he wrote it, and I have no reason to not believe him. Wonder how many royalties Tola has got for this tune due to this page :)
Composer Tola Custy!
I recently learnt this tune from piper Christy O’Leary when I met him at a festival here in Stockholm. He recorded it on his duo album with Bert Deivert. He says Tola Custy composed it.
And… it obviously says so on the Calico album, a group of which Tola Custy is part.
And… on the page http://www.oaim.ie/fiddle-skills it says "In this lesson, Tola will teach a composition of his own, called ‘Up Downey’."
It is however a very basic tune, so it is possible that Declan Corey also composed something like it. It has been known to happen that you think you’ve composed a tune, but actually the tune already exists, and you’ve heard it without remembering.
So does anyone know WHEN Tola Custy is supposed to have composed this tune?
Calico Songdogs 2000
I just saw that Calico’s album "Songdogs" was released in 2000, which means the tune must have been composed in 2000 or earlier. Anyone in contact with Tola Custy who can ask him?
Definitely Tola Custy!
Just got confirmed through a friend who knows Tola Custy that this is his composition.